edgeofjustice | Question meme

What are Yuri's thoughts on Gilbert making a return?

THE QUESTION OF THE HOUR... well. This whole situation was precedented by Sharon giving Yuri that ring, the one with a Nightray crest on it, and it gave Yuri a lot of feels about being a Nightray and being Ellie and Gil's brother. In a good way! The feels were mostly "THIS IS MY FAMILY AND I WILL MAKE THEM WORK, DAMMIT!!!"

And then conveniently, Gilbert. Yuri has always found Gil to be a nice guy but he is also intensely frustrated with him because he basically considers him to be incompetent where Vincent is concerned--either he doesn't notice his brother is needy and crazy or he doesn't know how to deal with it, and both of these things are useless to Yuri! But at the same time Gilbert is the KEY to helping
Vincent and, well, also Yuri's romantic rival. So Yuri is very divisive where Gil is concerned. There is a part of him that 1. Considers Gil only in regards to his utility 2. Recognizs Gil as his own person with his own problems and also his brother, same as Ellie 3. Is jealous of Gil for being the main object of Vincent's affection and not even appreciating it!!

Just a few days ago Yuri was telling Mithos and Lloyd that in all likelihood Gil NEEDED to be here to help Vincent get over his self-destruction thing but lately he's been gaining more confidence and was getting into an attitude of okay, maybe I CAN do this myself. So when Gil showed up it was simultaneous Oh thank god this will be so much easier and GOD GET OUT OF MY WAY GILBERT!!! And then:

TL;DR his thread with Gil was like: frustration with Gil → Elliot feelings → Gil dere → WORRY ABOUT VINCENT → MORE GIL DERE AND FEELINGS OF VULNERABILITY → FUCK FUCK GODDAMMIT OZ → uuuh that is some kind of inordinate flipping out possible plot point?! → OKAY SO about your brother Vincent → TBC...

What was Echo's view of the situation?

I WANTED TO BE THE FIRST TO ASK IT~

lol oh god

Echo didn't know what to make of Gilbert showing up! Which... is why she asked Yuri. IS THIS GOOD OR BAD, tell me, you know Vincent best right?? She knows that Vincent is obsessed with Gilbert from her memories, but she had no idea why that was since she doesn't know Gilbert very well. WHAT IF HE IS FUCKED UP LIKE VINCENT, LIKE MINDS, ETC!? So, upon hearing that Gilbert's arrival was a good thing, and that he was a good person, she tried to shrug it off, even if she was still concerned about Zwei's and Gilbert's conflict in another memory.

Then Oz was telling Gil things and THAT WAS A BIG WARNING SIGN. At the very least she thinks Gilbert HATES Vincent, which alone cannot bide well. And surely Zwei didn't go completely unmentioned. Echo was thinking that, if Gil remembers Zwei controlling him like that, then this is doubly worse (BUT I DON'T THINK HE DOES, DOES HE.) So. Yeah. Echo is relieved to have quickly ditched the scene like that.

Any update on our CR?

Yuri really does continue to appreciate Echo more and more, especially after the thread with Three! He sees Echo as basically a good, sweet girl--when she told him that she wanted to kill Zwei and would not feel bad about it, Yuri did not really believe her. He thinks Echo is a kinder more moral person than she gives herself credit for but at the same time he appreciates the fact that Echo's morality is, like his own, a LOT more gray, especially compared to say, Breeze's. And he appreciates that that is hard for her. He also really loves Echo because she THINKS about things--like she keeps asking him about his relationship with Vincent, and even just the way she observes other people. Yuri finds it a very endearing trait and wants all the best things for Echo, really :x.

Reverse?

Echo actually regrets having Yuri present during Three's thread. She was hoping she could rely on him as support—someone to kind of turn to and have as an extra voice of reason—but since all she did was go along with everything Breeze said, she didn't use him at all like she hoped to! In the end, he saw that Echo was discontent with the decision, that she did nothing about it and simply accepted it, AND he witnessed a lovely Turq moment. Fuck, that was awkward and embarrassing.

Her opinion of him hasn't changed too much since last time. That isn't to say it hasn't improved, though, because it has! For instance, she is extra comfy talking about Vincent openly with him. It's nice that Yuri knows enough about her world and the situation that she can simply talk about it with him without worrying about this and that. She trusts he doesn't run back to Vincent with this stuff. Echo still looks up to him, because he continues to fit her ideal idea of what a knight should be, and for the fact that they DO have similar standings on morals and whatnot. That, or he's receptive and doesn't try to change her mind the way Turquoise does. She notices that he's concerned for her, and she is actually not bothered by this like she normally would be—it's actually comforting, in a way. However, she's worried that Yuri thinks getting rid of Zwei would hurt her, but since it's YURI saying it, and not Turquoise, she's giving it some thought.

In the latest thread she was suuuuper relieved and thankful that Yuri told her to leave. No having to stand there and have awkward conversation while watching Gilbert lose his shit, just go to Turquoise. THANK YOU FOR BEING A MINDFUL/WATCHFUL ADULT, YURI LOWELL.

tl;dr if Echo ever (haha 'if' and 'ever'? pshhh) goes HELP I NEED AN ADULT!! Yuri will be the first to come to mind.

What does Yuri think about PH world from what he's heard/who he's met/etc?

Edited 2012-06-11 23:59 (UTC)

Yuri thinks Echo's world is a place filled with both extreme poverty and hedonistic decadence where immoral and amoral nobles control all the resources as they squabble for supremacy while using anything an everything in their path.

IN OTHER WORDS... a world not unlike his own!!! Yuri is not optimistic enough to think that words are all THAT different. They all have their good points and their bad points. I mean, it's the same world Sharon come form, and she's pretty wonderful. Not a place he really wants to visit, though! Too many nobles.

Do you (or Echo) have any happy end plans? Going home? Staying in Aather? World hopping?

Echo wants to stay in Aather! Rather, the only reason she wants to stay is because she absolutely refuses to go home. She's not all that fond of Aather, considering she was kidnapped here, but right now it's her only alternative, so she's decided she's staying. She's also become attached to things here, such as the people, her identity as a member of Turquoise, Turquoise itself, the fact that she won't die, that she can simply quest for things, the world offers more for her to explore than she imagines her home would—VERY SIMPLE THINGS. Sending herself away from Aather would definitely give her a disconnect? I guess that's the right word.

Personally I am going with whatever makes Echo content. Her life sucks, so I might as well be a nice player in the end lol. \:'D/

How about Yuri?

Edited 2012-06-12 00:59 (UTC)

Yuri's ultimate good end would be to take Elliot and Vincent back home with him to Zaphias :x Cause as problematic as his home is he does love it and Ellie would be such a good knight, there .////.

But that will probably not happen since Vin will not want to leave Gil who in turn will not want to leave Oz who probably wants to go back to his own home! He wants to stay with Vincent first and foremost, so they will probably end in them bumming around Aather.

I remember reading a bit of Echo's thread in that one world-creating Three game--what kinds of things does Echo desire? What kind of life does she want?

To phrase it from Echo's perspective, she really wants happiness! Of course, that's awfully vague. Happiness for Echo is having peace of mind and independence (loosely speaking, the freedom to live and do as she pleases, because she's actually accepting that it's KIIIND OF ok to be dependent on people who are willing to help and protect her.) With Zwei around, along with what she feels is an overbearing team, Echo definitely feels like she is lacking these things. Her visits to the beach are kind of her escapes!

Another thing she's given thought to making Aather into a pleasant place to live with no drawbacks like TRAUMA GAMES and TERRIBLE THINGS and LIMITATIONS. We only have Selenia to blame because he actually put these ideas into her head, or at least the start of them, because Echo did get carried away when trying to dream up what kind of place it would be. When she first stepped into the world-creating game, she wanted to test her skills by making a 'beautiful world,' which is the basis of the idea between Selenia and herself. Echo DOES realize that this is stupid and unrealistic, but... it's ideal and she likes it. It sounds great. It's like a dream. Selenia has her thinking that taking the Personae's power should be enough to do something about it, and WHAT DO YOU KNOW, she potentially has Doldum! Surely Doldum can help accomplish some of this, or at least set them on the right track.

Overall, the life she wants is a peaceful one where she's free and enjoying life the way she's never gotten to before. After all, her life consisted of serving Vincent; girl didn't get out much, and she never thought she'd see places outside the cities at her own leisure.

O-oh Yuri, coping by getting high with Turquoise. How does he feel after that thread with Gilbert?

tell me about your tsun

:TTTTT So Yuri has been trying to get on top of his game and cross all his t's and dot all his i's so he can focus on working on Vincent! And he talked to Lloyd who was like Yeah Flynn is doing this quest that is moderately unhealthy and Yuri had tsun feelings about THAT. Stupid Flynn you are so hardheaded and stubborn! And you just insist on being this justice machine without thinking of the consequences to yourself. So his plan was to just, you know. Make him lunch and NOT GET INTO A FIGHT and try to smooth over this awkwardness between them so it would stop being a thing and he could operate without having to worry about turning a corner and running into Flynn and having feelings.

He really did not mean to start a fight; he did not even particularly care about the jail! He tried to play it off light but then Flynn started being FLYNN so he just reacted and ended up getting into a fight about something he didn't even care about.

And then he went home and tied Vincent up because he wanted something to go right for once!!

What was Flynn's read on that situation? DID HE LIKE THE FOOD.

HE LIKED THE FOOD once he sort of got over himself enough to eat it. For Flynn he had kind of dismissed Yuri before the whole encounter because of the fact that Yuri lied to Flynn about Vincent hurting him! Which spoke a lot to how much Yuri trusts Flynn to handle that whole situation, etc. But basically, because of that he was super surprised that Yuri even stopped by. It was kind of touching and he was hoping that it miight be a turning point but since there were already trust issues afoot Flynn didn't really want to dance around the issue of what he was doing the quest for. However, in his eyes he doesn't see the door as punishment but rather as protection so he got really worked up by Yuri trying to turn it into a means to punish himself. All in all Flynn still thinks that Yuri is a good person, and a good knight in Aather! He firmly believes that the door should not be used for people like Yuri because Yuri has never proved to be a danger to (innocent) people in Flynn's eyes.

Flynn sort of recognized that he was letting himself get worked up about justice issues and that it wasn't exactly helping the situation so he just shut up. Mostly he feels like he misstepped in a bad way. He sort of recognizes that it's not his place to try to help Yuri with anything that's going on in his personal life if Yuri isn't inviting it (and Yuri is definitely not inviting that).

So mostly it just frustrated him more. He's really worried about Yuri but for now he's just going to keep maintaining his distance. And get about a million more quests.

How much is Yuri judging Oz right now?

Nooot a lot, more like minor facepalm judging. It was very whyyyy could you have no waited ten minutes Oz!! But he can appreciate that Oz is young and probably did it out of a misguided bout of honesty rather than malicious intent.

... Though he is also kind of what the fuck is WRONG with people from this world and not picking up on really obvious things?! Because from Yuri's eyes there was no way Gil's response was normal even for a spaz like him, so the fact that Oz can't see there is something off there is a little frustrating, especially since Yuri recognizes this is probably not the first time this has happened. Of course, he doesn't know that for Oz, Gil has been like that about him his whole life.

So what WOULD happen if they locked us in a closet together?

Flynn would stand stubbornly in the corner and insist that he has nothing to say if Yuri's not interested in talking. He would keep that up until Yuri poked at some issue or another then I imagine they'd just go at each other and it could definitely turn into a really damn close quarters fight unless they somehow got across to each other that they're just tsuntsun about caring.

At which point Flynn would just tsun and ignore it and ask to be let out anyway.

YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE CLOSET?

Yeah more or less. MOCK FLYNN → FIGHT FLYNN → YELL TSUNLY ABOUT FEELINGS → GET OUT, with a small possibility for Flynn love meee :(

IDK talk to me about Flynn and sexuality; what does he like physical/mentally in his partners (well it's not like he has much experience but project a little).

The most important thing for Flynn in a partner right now is either someone who he doesn't feel will take sex too seriously or someone who he could have a genuine emotional connection with. LACKING THE LATTER, he's swinging a lot more toward the former. Flirting alone is sort of a new and exciting thing for him because he's never really had an interest in flirting or had a personal reason to do it. Flirting doesn't get you places in the Imperial Knights and before Aather that was his ~life~ so he just sort of ignored its existence.

But Aather is doing interesting things for Flynn in terms of developing his sense of self and sexuality is one of those facets. So he's more comfortable with flirting, mostly because if it works out nicely (like with Chariot) he feels flattered and he gets to flatter someone else so it's a win win situation. He definitely approaches people who are more laid back because this is new ground he's exploring. He already had a bit of a mess up with both Selenia and Yuri so he wants his exploration to be something he can do without worrying about long term repercussions for the relationship.

Also experience is nice because as earnest as he can be Flynn's (at this time) still a virgin. He wants someone who'd be more willing to show him the ropes and who knows their way around things so that he can get a better understanding of how things are done. He definitely won't go for a more inexperienced partner until he feels confident in his ability to please them.

I think the more that Flynn comes into a comfortable sense of his own sexuality the more comfortable he's going to be with things like physical affection and flirting. There's always going to be some degree of genuine affection behind it, though, because Flynn Scifo is not the kind of guy for one night stands. (unless it's something that the other party is completely comfortable with in which case, if they're attractive and he likes them, he's all for it)

Any memories in Yuri's registry that you're looking forward to?

The one where he gets stabbed off of the Zaude :'D It's the only memory that will actually viscerally throw him... also the memory of fighting Estelle and of not!killing Raven. All the delicious memories pushing him more and more towards being able to make really huge, terrible decisions.

Talk to me about Flynn headcanon. Any headcanon.

You are already king of the bad decision dinosaurs, Yuri Lowell.

Flynn took a very serious interest in teaching himself practical skills like writing and cooking when he was younger so he could do more odd jobs around the Lower Quarter. When he first started writing, he practiced by keeping a ~~diary~~ journal of daily events (which Yuri probably mocked him for). He still keeps it up daily, and there's sometimes where he'll write short letters to Yuri in his entries, especially after Yuri left the knights and in the aftermath of Zaude. He's got all his old journals stashed away in his room at the capitol, neatly filed in chronological order.

How did Yuri learn to cook?

I think it gets mentioned in canon that he literally learned to cook in self-defense... Possibly this is how he got acquainted with the lady who runs the inn! ~~After she found him lying half-dead in a gutter from Flynn's cooking~~. No he probably started off watching her while he peeled potatoes or something and worked his way up from there.

What's up with Flynn and Selenia anyway?

They're in a weird place! Selenia was someone that Flynn attached very strongly to when he first arrived in Aather because person who speaks with authority! It's very easy for Flynn to fall into his role as a knight with people who are commanding like Van. But then Selenia kissed him and things sort of became a bit more awkward on Flynn's side. Mostly it was an issue of too much too fast, because at that time Flynn still wasn't thinking of Aather as a different system from the Imperial Knights so for one, it was something that felt wrong to him as a knight-to-hero relationship, and for two, it wasn't something he'd even considered in terms of his own desires because he was still focusing super heavily on his duties as a knight-knight.

So Flynn sort of backed off out of consideration for his feelings and things were a little awkward for a while thereafter. They were on that sort of unstable footing until Selenia wound up giving away his love for a quest which freaked Flynn the fuck out. They somewhat resolved after that but then after the game where all of Sapphire died they had a disagreement on what's the right course for Aather, basically that Flynn supports the goal of Beauty and the realm regardless of what might happen in games and Selenia doesn't.

From Flynn's end things are still kind of...iffy. He's definitely not as close to Selenia as he once was because of the disagreements that they've had over Aather, justice, and the like, but Selenia does remain someone that he respects so he's just in general in a place where he's trying to figure out how to navigate their relationship.

What would Yuri do if someone stuck gum in his hair.

MURDER... THEM...

He sure as hell would not cut it!! He would go find Narcissus or some Persona like that to help him get it out :T And just be unbearably cranky.

Flynn's feelings about Yuri's hair.

HE'S HAD LOTS OF THEM. Mostly Yuri, your hair is so impractical, what would you do if an enemy grabbed it in battle? :T It always gets tangled, Yuri :TT You take forever in the shower, Yuri :TTTT Your hair is against Imperial Knights regulation Yuri :TTTTT You're dripping all over the floor, Yuri :TTTTTT It suits you, Yuri :T

What would Yuri do with Repede in Aather?

It would be like how Vincent is with Obsidian; screw you guys gonna hang out with my dog \o/ +500 COPING BECAUSE OF DOG. It would be a huge comfort especially since he got back his everyday life before gamestart which was basically hanging out alone with Repede most of the time.

Will Flynn ever stop wearing his armor around all the time?

He is gradually easing out of it these days. Honestly he's a bit loathe to just stop wholesale because of the possibility that he could find himself at a game that requires it when he's not geared up and then he'd beat himself up forever for not being able to help. Though I imagine once he gets his inventory skill back that might help out a bit, maybe. But then there's also the practicality of getting into and out of it all the time.

Someone like Lloyd or Chariot could probably talk to him about the merits of not wearing armor all the damn time and that might help the gradual process.

What's your favorite kind of game or what kind of games do you want to see more of?

also tell me about your tsun

can you imagine his tsun levels if we ever double teamed him

you'd have to get your head out of your ass wrt him first or i'd be too busy facepalming at the pair of you to inspire any

but yes

soooo in like a year

His tsun from Lloyd comes, more obviously, from the times Lloyd has seen him just totally lost and frustrated and on the edge of having a breakdown. He is aware it's probably not a big deal for Lloyd but it will basically never NOT be really embarrassing for him. Also Lloyd's modus operandi around Aather reminds him of Flynn if Flynn wasn't such a hard-headed goody two-shoes so that's just the whipped tsun topping on the tsun cake. And he kind of fulfills the same roll as Flynn does--reminds him that there's good in the world, and possibility to change.

Then it gets more subtler... I was thinking about how sex with Lloyd and Yuri would go and realized that it would actually be pretty nerve-wracking for Yuri because, as he told Lloyd, he never knows what Lloyd is going to do! He and Vincent both are SUPER SUPER cue dependent (especially with sex) and Lloyd just... totally surpasses cues. He's so straightforward in his actions he always sidelines Yuri and Yuri, much like a cat, does not like to be seen losing his footing.

How is Lloyd doing with being able to read Yuri these days?

APOLOGIES IN ADVANCE this keyboard sucks to type fast on so I just roll with it.

sob i actually think that sex between yuri and lloyd would go really badly for yuri at first for partly what you just said and partly because of the way lloyd approaches sex. I WAS THINKING ABOUT IT TOO LAST NIGHT :Xa

he still doesn't do great at reading yuri, i think, because he is not a subtle nuances guy. but he doesn't care as much any more because SINCE he has seen yuri at the edge more, he feels like he understands him better whether he can read him or not - his motivations etc, if that makes sense - and he trusts what he feels he understands about him. so he doesn't really need to know yuri's immediate plans or thoughts, just offer support, cos he feels like he knows and trusts him. he does think it'd be a relief for yuri to open up a little more but w/e w/e yuri's gonna yuri and he's comfortable with that too.

why did yuri start flirting with him...

Well! His day went like this: Tsun at Flynn → proactively engage sex with boyfriend for the first time in a LONG time → sex goes fairly wel!!! → get slightly buzzed and take a loooong nap.

One of the biggest things in Yuri and Vincent's relationship is Yuri NEVER pushes too hard for sex because in the past, Vincent has let him push and then faked enjoying it which is really, really horrifying to Yuri. Also Vincent does not like being topped which adds another degree of passivity to Yuri. But he was so frustrated from talking to Flynn he just went for it and rather than backfiring horribly it worked out okay and they both sincerely enjoyed themselves even if there is still room for improvement. So after he took a long nap and when he woke up he was feeling pretty zen and confident--god a good read on Vincent and had fantastic sex, WINNING.

So flirting with Lloyd was just a sort of whim from being on a winning streak, and also nostalgia for their torrid affairs in the past (which do tend to occur at parties) and then Lloyd was dense and Yuri thought it would be fun to push and see how far he could take it before Lloyd noticed. He doesn't do it normally because of the aforementioned embarrassment but he was feeling confident enough that he thought he could handle it, and besides, he was having some dere for Lloyd's Lloydness.

Lloyd's thoughts on VILLAINS IN AATHER. Does he touch them on purpose or does that just sort of happen?

So, you were feeling confident on Vincent, Yuri . . . ?

Well mostly in the recent shibari thread. As you know Yuri has a bit of a complex with engaging sex with Vincent so the fact that he did it at all AND he was fairly successful was really encouraging. Now, as for the definition of successful--Vincent seemed to sincerely enjoy it and Yuri was a lot less inhibited! Like he told Vincent, there is more room for improvement but it was a good first run. He went into that thread just wanting to totally break Vincent down--to make him cry, because he was sick of being alone and frustrated and not being able to get through--but he's kind of glad he didn't succeed. He wants to get better at Vincent but he is aware of the need to be subtle about it lest Vincent catch on.

Okay, Vincent's thought son that thread.

Pffthahahaha!! Oh, gosh, let us just want the same thing and never push the other far enough to get it ever.

So, Vincent is trying to be ~better~ and be ~behaved~ around Yuri. He realizes that he's very greedy in wanting to get Yuri to bend his way in a lot of different cases, so he's trying to cue off what Yuri seems to wants which is never really easy to figure out. The shibari went well in that Vincent didn't catch on, until he had his first genuine thought of I want X . . . Then, he immediately stamped down on it, because it wasn't that Yuri wanted it; it was what he wanted. He can't misbehave or impose anymore! It has become an awful crutch that needs to stop! Half the reason that Vincent wants to spend time with Mother is that he is trying to kill out how easily he lets Yuri see what he really wants. He was lusting after being used and abused, then left out to dry which isn't a Sane Thing for most people. (Like, not that he could do it, but if Yuri would have gotten tears out of Vincent in that thread, it would be have been super A++ in his book.) Vincent knows that if he puts that expectation on Yuri, then Yuri will meet it! . . . But he shouldn't have to, nor should that be an object at all. The mess of a person that Vincent is needs to be locked up away from other people, because it's just not meant for them.

The same issue popped up again after sex when Vincent couldn't read into what Yuri wanted without certainty. It's really difficult to guess off him, so he walked away from the situation rather than making a mistake. He's terrified of another telling mistake setting off between them, so it's easier to just take a step back and let Yuri cue better.

So, what's Yuri think of Vincent's absence with brother around? :)

How much was that Vincent earnestly being turned on and how much was playacting?

........... :)!!!

None of it was playacting. Yuri hit just the right spot (lol), even when Vincent tried to retreat. Whatever Yuri's reasons for acting that way, Vincent put his own reasons in to it, so it was made that much better. Also, Vincent tried to avoid eye-contact whenever he was making up his own delusions, so that it wasn't Yuri, but whatever he wanted during sex. If you run through the thread again, Vincent is always more self-possessed whenever I tag that he's looking at Yuri. So . . . Yuri may have gotten Vincent exposed, but it wasn't Yuri to Vincent.

So, yup, another episode of Vincent fulfilling himself while Yuri happened to be around.

Yuri thinks it is ALL ACCORDING TO PLAN. He is assuming that whatever reaction Gil is having right now is the one Vincent expected him to have and he is purposefully keeping himself distant so the shit can get stirred. Since it's unlikely Oz would have said anything with Vincent there. He thinks Vincent is lurking somewhere waiting for his brother to hunt him down.

So who WAS Yuri... some random noble guys~? Also Vincent's thoughts on spanking, blade/bloodplay, and whipping.

Oh, good boy~.

And it wasn't some random noble person, but anyone who would actually act on the fact that Vincent should be pushed and beaten down. Uh, spanking is alright, but the first person to treat him like a misbehaving child is going to end up with a broken hand . . . Bloodplay is actually new area as something inflicted to him! It's really only something that he dabbles in with torture victims, but it could be fun. He isn't opposed to the idea at all, at least. Whipping has awful Mother connotations! But he is more open to it when combined with restriction. So, if it's an accepted act that requires binding, he's alright. If someone tries to use it out of the blue, and outside of bed, then he's going to destroy them.

So, tell me~ What new things does Yuri want to try with Vincent now?

Whipping and bloodplay, probably not--that was more for my own curiosity, though it's not out of the question. Spanking is definitely on the list. He also wants to try tying him up and leaving him, miiiight try drugging him, throat fucking, blindfolding, tying him to a chair. Man, if they were not in Aather he'd think about taking him to get gangbanged. If all that goes well he'll try some dicier things--hitting, and maybe the whipping or bloodplay. Really he has no problem indulging Vincent even though he's aware the mindset is problematic. It satisfies that sadistic part of him that watched a man drown in a sandpit, and Vincent is such a control freak it doesn't really SURPRISE Yuri he just wants to be thrown down and used himself sometimes. That's actually kind of normal. Plus, even if they convince Vince to live Yuri doesn't really think they will cure his guilt problems. If Vincent earnestly enjoys it, and Yuri can maybe slip someone genuine, piercing affection through after Vincent is broken down and open, then it's all good... It's also, hmm, a little bit strategic... Attack vincent with things he wants...

same question! And also things he wants Yuri t try with him.

Hmm, there isn't anything very new that Vincent wants to try with Yuri. He hasn't exhausted everything in his toolbox by far, but he doesn't like to push the boundaries too much. It's hard to find something that they can both lock into without it feeling like Vincent is the one driving it, and . . . Well, Vincent still doesn't feel too confident with planning ahead for something intense like most of his kinks. If they happen along the way, then that's what happens! But it's not part of a plan, so he doesn't think on it at all.

He would like to revisit old paths, though. Vincent would love to have another person in, just to see how that goes. Also, he would like to do more shibari, though not with the end goal of sex . . . Even though, it would absolutely end up happening, derp derp. He is coming around to the thought of dere sex, though Yuri would have to take point on that one. \o/

Remind me, because I forget. I know Vincent did trigger at Yuri with his brainwashing, but did Yuri actually recognize it as foreign behavior? Can he make the connection between his and Gil's?

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