edgeofjustice | Question meme

Hi Yuri. So tell me about your tsun.

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So Yuri has been tsun at Flynn since day one because it's FLYNN. And he has kept being mildly tsun at him for the same reason. Part of this tsun is born out of Yuri's sense of inferiority and uselessness; the feeling that he'll never be a good, effective person the way Flynn can be so easily. But then Flynn so SINCERELY believes in him when he doesn't WANT to be believed in it just backlashes into a FUCK YOU YOU DON'T KNOW MEEEE. Aggravating THAT is how Yuri feels about home in Aather; he loves Zaphias and Terca Lumireis but he was feeling super disconnected form his life there so when Flynn showed up he was pretty resolved to keep well enough a way and hopefully let Flynn's obsession with him work itself out. IT WORKED WITH RAVEN!!

Of course, that didn't happen. And he watched Flynn do his Flynn thing, not only being an effective knight but also changing and growing as he learned new things and then Flynn told him he made commandant and that. It's hard to describe it made him so happy it that it ended up making him kind of sad and that combined with FLynn ~blossoming~ in Aather just cemented the whole "Flynn is doing way better without me I'll just continue to leave him alone".

But that memory basically brought to head how much he LOVES Flynn. He spent three years being lonely and disillusioned and all he really wanted to do was see Flynn but he fucked himself out of it because while Flynn's success was a huge balm to him, it was also a reminder of his own failures.

But the CURRENT LEVEL OF TSUN you are dealing with mostly comes from... embarrassment. He spent all this time being like NOPE WHO WOULD LIKE FLYNN GROSS I SURE DON'T LOVE FLYNN!!! And pushing him away and insisting against it and now that it's happened he is... happy. Even though he doesn't want to admit it. He's happy and he knows Flynn is going to do stupid FLYNN shit to make him happy and it's exasperating and familiar and he knows he's gonna get topped so hard, god DAMMIT.

How does Flynn view the current situation? Does he have any plans or expectations?

Flynn is cautiously optimistic at the moment! The memory he shared really helped solidify a few things and opened his eyes a lot to Yuri's perspective on things which is something he really needed to see. Aather has done a lot to shift how Flynn views his personal goals and methodology so especially with Yuri he was feeling a disparity in his understanding of what he wanted vs. what Yuri wanted. Being shown that yeah, Yuri does sort of push himself and his own wants to the side followed so quickly by the confirmation that yes, Yuri does want him was a huge boon to that effort.

In some ways it hasn't changed things much because Flynn had already made his promise that he would stand by Yuri no matter what. But mostly in addition to that he knows that he does hold the same importance for Yuri even if neither of them are able to place it well. What they have right now is pretty nebulous in Flynn's eyes but he's confident that they'll sort it in their own time.

He is pretty hesitant to put plans or expectations to their relationship because he knows that Yuri does things at his own pace and more than capable anything Flynn wants to respect that. He's probably going to slowly ease and relax into being a bit more playfully teasing of Yuri since most of his experience with relationships is flirting with Dino but he'll allow Yuri to make the moves and he's more than willing to step back if it seems like Yuri's out of his comfort zone or hitting crit tsun levels. Basically he is a dere barnacle stuck to your side now, Yuri.

I know nothing of homestuck tell me who dirk is.

Dirk is a very smart adorable philosopher boy whose bad socialization cashes out in his tendency to build robots and send them to his friends so he can stalk them constantly. The main thing you need to know about Dirk is that he LOVES HIS FRIENDS and would do anything for them, including use said robots and other artificial intelligences to harass them into being stronger/more thoughtful people.

Basically his #1 priority at all times is to love and support his friends while also keeping them ALIVE. To the latter end, Dirk works tirelessly (he literally does not sleep due to #some canon shit). He also likes drawing porn, being ironic, and having deep philosophical conversations with an artificial intelligence he created to mimic his own brain. He is incredibly thoughtful and sweet.

He is also the AU version of Dave's bro (the guy who raised Dave) so... yeah.

Dirty thoughts Flynn has about Yuri, go.

Everything he has done with Dino.

But more specifically he really kind of wants to hear Yuri dirty talk him. Flynn himself is pretty vocal in bed so he really likes to fantasize about how Yuri would talk back. :x cllose seconds would be letting Yuri tie him up and also having just completely shameless lazy making out.

Reverse!

NOT SADOMASOCHISM THAT'S FOR SURE...

Actually, Yuri's thoughts on Flynn tend to be kind of vanilla because sleeping with Flynn is already kind of a huge thing; he really doesn't need to dress it up any. Once he becomes more comfortable, well is there a part of Yuri that would probably be incredibly turned on by prisoner roleplay?

Yes. Yes there is.

Flynn and polyamory: how did he come to be okay-ish with it and what ar ehis thought son it?

Mostly kissing games and Dino are to blame for it. Originally Flynn was pretty rigidly standing by monogamy and intimacy only as a thing for couples, kissing included. The games made him pretty uncomfortable in general, especially the first bout of mistletoe. However they definitely helped make him more aware of Aather's culture of polyamory acceptance and how people were generally more lax about those sort of things here. He'd been made pretty aware of how inept he was at relationships and romance by Selenia and Spitfire primarily, so he was definitely feeling the urge to figure it out. Another factor in this was how he was getting a lot of advice that it was okay to kick back and relax in Aather and still be an effective knight.

Now Dino comes into play with this in the sexswap/deage/age up game where Flynn just utterly worked himself up into a frustrated mess over Yuri and Vincent. He knew he needed to calm himself down and he wanted to try to do so in the company of someone he didn't think would judge him or who he felt he would lose esteem or respect with for doing something like hitting the bottle.

So he went to the beach with Dino, drank, and made out with him more than a lot. Dino sort of urged him to take more time to himself and since Flynn was a) getting a little curious about his sexuality and b) in need of some stress relief he decided to seek Dino out for this. He sort of saw Dino as someone experienced in intimacy enough that he wouldn't judge Flynn's inexperience but also someone who didn't seem to necessarily attach romantic value to the act so Flynn didn't have to worry about hurting his feelings. He was aware of the fact that Dino had and was sleeping with other people at the time but it didn't bother him because he wasn't pursuing him for an exclusive sexual relationship.

Now for the actual polyromantic part of it, that came more into play in Chance's kissing bingo game. Though Flynn was much more comfortable with kissing and the idea of casual sex at the time, he still didn't like the thought of kissing games because they didn't necessarily respect everyone's personal boundaries on the matter. In this game it was Lloyd and Mithos who really helped wear that down because Flynn had huge respect crushes on both of them from day one and in the game he realized that he was and they were all right with the idea of kissing and intimacy between friends on something a bit different from the friends with benefits deal he had with Dino.

Flynn kind of falling in love with Dino and how completely charming he is also helped out since he knew that even if he pursued a relationship with Dino, it wouldn't be fair of him to lay an exclusive claim to him.

So all of those combined, along with the conversation that Flynn had with Dino when they hooked up, have left him pretty all right with them having an open relationship. He thinks that polyamory can be pretty great when all parties involved are in open communication and agreement about it.

Yuri's thoughts on a threesome with Flynn. Who would he want to be the third and how would he want it to go down, if at all.

yuri what prompted this swing towards talking about your feelings

PEOPLE BITCHING TO HIM THAT HE DIDN'T.

It started with Raven, but then in very close proximity Chariot told him something very similar while he tried to brobreakup with him and Yuri FLIPPED a little--mostly because his experience with Raven telling him almost the same thing was really, really negative. So he just kind of decided, fuck it, if it's so important to do then I'll try doing it. It also helps that he is FEELING his emotions a lot more; his moods are a lot more mercurial and he is not repressing every bad emotion that comes his way. It's very dissonant and strange for him and he doesn't LIKE IT but he is aware that he is changing as a person and is trying his best to go with it even though the process is unpleasant.

Relationship meme? Does Mithos think Yuri is changing/has changed? What did he think the last serious talk they had, where Yuri admitted he was tired of Personae etc?

Yeah, Mithos thinks Yuri has changed! He obviously hasn't been closely acquainted with Yuri the whole time he's been in Aather but it is PRETTY CLEAR from where he stands that this is the case; it's clear Yuri's usually a pretty sociable guy but he's watched Yuri's, hmm, sphere shrink and then grow again? Things like Chariot obviously not feeling close to Yuri anymore and Yuri's sort of isolation with Vincent and Raven having problems with the whole deal . . . but Yuri's now starting to open up some and he's got Guy and Flynn and Lloyd and Mithos himself and other people not leaving him alone and stuff is getting aired and it just generally seems like Yuri is shifting into a healthier place. Mithos is glad to see that :X

As for the tired of Personae talk . . . hmmm. That's one of those things Mithos didn't necessarily like -- I mean, he never likes hearing 'I'm giving up on X' from anyone! But it's also one of those things that's legit, that level of frustration! And even if it's not something he's pleased with, it's Yuri's choice, not his, and it doesn't make Yuri any less his friend or anything. Mithos would yell at Yuri if Yuri had this issue and tried to hide that it was an issue! But he didn't because Yuri has the issue but admitted as much. He just . . . he can deal with his friends having issues like that but he hates them deflecting. Guy got a similar thing where Mithos hissed at him for being liarface for a while; it boiled down to -- "you need liarface to cope and I won't judge that but I will judge you if you try to make like your liarface doesn't exist as a thing." He dddoes hope something happens that jolts Yuri into feeling less static and beat about the whole affair, though.

Their relationship is still generally positive! I don't think a lot has changed so much as what was already there got a bit deeper and more nuanced; Mithos definitely feels very comfortable whether he's talking to Yuri about private stuff or they just fall into the ritual of banterflirting. (This might be different if circumstances had differed a bit and Mithos had seen Yuri's three-year memory because that would've been a huge jolt on a lot of weird levels, but.) Ummm what else -- Mithos is still attracted to him but for him that's pretty background by now; he'd sleep with Yuri if Yuri initiated but it is not really a thing on his mind. What is a bigger thing is that he would be super happy if you joined the Tales party, Yuri Lowell, being partyless sounds lonely and sad.

REVERSE I SUPPOSE if you are still doin' this WHERE OUR CHARACTERS AT

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how will dirk feel about rose once he finds out who she is/how will he deal with the fact that she doesn't know she and dave are related '-'

Edited 2012-09-20 23:11 (UTC)

I am pretty sure Dirk will totally fucking love Rose regardless of what he knows about her/them and they will totally have some verbose bro-outs (VERBROSITY). I imagine when he figures out there is a connection between him and Dave it won't be a stretch for him to realize she and Roxy have a connection, too. And while Rose can certainly stand on her own in his esteem Roxy is his FOREVER GIRL so obviously her progeny is gonna get the full Dirk Strider treatment (once he figures out how to invent the internet so he can go back to constantly stalking his loved ones from the cyber shadows).

Who knows, he may even end up asking for her advice on Dave, if Dave decides to be a problem child.

As for she and Dave being related--I don't think Dirk has a way of knowing that (Am I wrong??). :|a Buut if you mean in regards to incest specifically, Dirk will be the first person to tell them to fuck that heteronormative incest taboo bullshit and go for it. Being brother and sister is not a significant fact for him so if he does find out before them he wouldn't necessarily be prone to share if it would cause more harm than good.

How are Rose's quadrants looking?

I am pretty sure that he knows because he talks to Roxy about the whole I think i just met our mom thing...but it might have been MY mom oh well whatevs

'u' BROS I am ready for Bros. There will be so much verbosity, Dave will go cry in a small hole forever.

UH. GOOD. They are good. She's in a moirallegiance with Tavros, despite not...knowing exactly WHAT that is, and it is good! She and Dave are "dating" in that they are telling everyone else that they are boyfriend/girlfriend but haven't confirmed it with one another. Quality teenage form. She doesn't have black quadrants because she's Rose Lalonde and what am troll romance.

HOW IS YURI DOING?

Yuri is learning about feeling feelings and talking about feelings and it fucking sucks and he would like to not have to do it at ALL. Basically. But he is managing to be somewhat happier overall, and even if he is gritting his teeth through the process, he recognizes that changing as a person is not a bad thing.

Will Rose be okay with the incest thing?

Edited 2012-09-21 00:32 (UTC)

I don't know honestly. :| Peridot will talk her into it i'm sure.

I am here to demand an essay. 1" margins single space.

F-FUCK YOU CHARIOT.

Not even Yuri really knows where he stands on Chariot. Back at the Sea Witch game, he was mostly upset, not that Chariot and Flynn had gotten hurt, but that they SEEMED to have gotten hurt for an utterly stupid reason. Yuri is used to Flynn being bulletproof/reasonable so it was kind of a shock to his system. And like I stated above, Chariot's speech had come at a bad time because he had recently dealt with Raven about the same issue of aloofness, except Raven was a lot more pushy and judgmental about it so in general he was a lot more emotional about it than he would have been.

Afterwards they seemed to do fine! They talked about feelings and Yuri was pretty pleased with this modest attempt and thought maybe they really were on the mend. But then the kissing game happened and Chariot sort of harassed him a little which was okay until he flat-out rejected Yuri kissing him. And touch is so important to Yuri in terms of establishing affection/relationships so getting the door shut in his face like that was a really harsh blow, especially considering the nature of their relationship in the past.

AND TO MAKE THINGS WORSE they spared and Chariot pinned him down and ruffled his hair like everything was fine??? But it was TOO casual for everything to actually be fine. So Yuri is mostly hurt and confused and he doesn't know who to blame--has he not been trying hard enough? But it doesn't seem to him as he Cherry's been trying at all, and basically, he hates feelings and he would rather NOT be trying to cultivate and talk about them if he's not going to get a god damn bone for it anyway.

Chariot's thoughts on Yuri!

It's... It's complicated and Chariot is well aware of how complicated he is probably making it.

LET'S SEE uh so originally Chariot was pretty settled on breaking up with Yuri when he approached him about it. HE WAS SUPER READY TO GO 'we know we have been seeing other people and that is okay but i think it is time to end it bb' and had thought Yuri would've been okay with it, except apparently his timing was horrible and he was thrown off by how vehemently Yuri protested. Agreeing to try and work it out with Yuri was actually not really in his plan at all, but he did decide to go with it because honestly he might have accepted their 'break up' but he wasn't very happy with it. He likes Yuri! Yuri is still representative of one of his most relaxed and closest friendships when Chariot first arrived in Aather and he misses that a lot but can and does realize that they can't have that back, not exactly, because they're both different from how they used to be back then.

So! FRIENDSHIP RESTARTED and Chariot has a pretty positive view on it too. But mentally, he has pushed Yuri back a good few steps in terms of 'closeness' because right now he does have a few people he openly and comfortably talks about the mafia to and Yuri isn't quite in that space anymore. He's okay with taking it slowly though in working their way... not necessarily back to where they were but up to something good? Better?! And that whole talk they had, despite how much Chariot teased him during it, had him feeling pretty good about the direction they were going in.

So he's been following his gut instinct and just working on being casually friendly with Yuri again, which was why he invited him to the fight, teasing him a bunch, etc. He actually has no idea that not kissing Yuri during that game had that kind of effect on him, because in his view kissing/sexual things is just... not a thing they do anymore? Not out of discomfort or dislike or anything like that, but because it's just... not on the table sort of feeling. He just doesn't feel like he can or should start anything with Yuri... in part because of Flynn and Vincent I would say. HE IS VERY MUCH AWARE that neither Flynn nor Vincent would have a probably with him sleeping with Yuri but still there's a feeling that puts him off it and it doesn't make much sense yeah but it's THERE.

THE OTHER SIDE OF IT is that a lot of Chariot's sexual attraction to Yuri has cooled off and he doesn't have a particularly strong drive to push it back into casual sex or even attraction between them. He is pretty sexually satisfied right now after working out all his curiosities about sex early on in his Aather and has a couple of steady partners right now so he does not think/desire it nearly as much as he used to. He's still okay with being physical with Yuri in other ways to some extent, like ruffling his hair, fighting him, but not necessarily flopping on top of each other or kissing. It just doesn't feel like they're at that place yet?!

THAT WAS A TANGENT but it does still apply and Chariot's feelings toward Yuri are not really anywhere near kissing territory but he is also not at all aware of just how much weight Yuri puts on touching or that not kissing him and then ruffling his hair would send mixed signals. For him, anyway, it makes sense so he will just keep DERPING ON with being okay with how things are moving along, especially after getting Yuri's tsunapproval of dating Flynn, which was actually the one event he was most worried about talking to Yuri with.

... THOSE ARE ALL THE THOUGHTS I CAN MANAGE COHERENTLY WHILE STAYING ON JUST ONE GENERAL TOPIC so yuri your two best friends at one point or another are now dating what are your thoughts on that

Honestly Yuri could not be more pleased about them dating. Of course before he and Flynn did whatever there was a sort of tsun "Good! Okay! They can be together and leave me the hell alone!" But now he is just kinda of, Well good for both of them couldn't happen to nicer guys. But also there's an element of "What is even dating". It doesn't really... mean much of anything to him, especially since Flynn and Chariot were already having sex and spending a lot of time together and from what Yuri understands that is dating?

If anything, HE'S the one who feels like the odd man out. He sort of hopes that this weird triangle of theirs will even out to a point where he can be comfortable again with Chariot so he is not so unsure all the time of what their footing is. While he is happy that they're dating, he's kind of... some adjective for sad that it's so awkward for him.

Why did Chariot think Yuri was going to care... WHAT WAS HE EXPECTING TO HAPPEN. What did he think of Yuri's reaction.

Honestly, Chariot has no idea where Yuri and Flynn's friendship is at. He DOES know that Flynn kissed Yuri and enjoyed it and will possibly be seeking out further justice kissing, and that they both do care about each other even though they're dumb about it and from Chariot's view he's the odd one out because they share a much longer and deeper history than he does with either one of them.

WHAT HE WAS EXPECTING was some sort of denial or no or even just a reminder that Flynn is probably too good for him. He wasn't necessarily expecting Yuri to say it, but he is expecting it from somewhere because that's what he thinks about himself? The whole 'I'm corrupting this really great knight look at all the things I have taught him already'.

Yuri's reaction... caught him kinda offguard because he was expecting something more negative and so he's still kind of waiting for the other foot to drop. He doesn't think Yuri really said all he really wanted to say about it, so he's kind of just... waiting for another cookie to come flying his way sometime soon.

Things Yuri misses doing with Chariot?!

MOSTLY STUPID THINGS? Especially their stupid quests. Those were great; he basically got to drape on Chariot and banter at him while they watched everyone else run around and have fun. In general it was a very content, happy feeling: get to be effective and get to hang out with bro. Basically he misses being bros. He liked having this relationship where nothing was expected out of him but the pleasure of his company.

How is Hubert doing?

WE SHOULD THREAD AGAIN is that a question

The answer is yes.

To both.

OKAY

Real question: would Yuri join the current talescast party? Because Lloyd has been meaning to ask him for weeks but our threads keep dying before they get that far.

Yes he would ~~(since he is fucking half the Tales cast)~~ especially since he and Flynn are..........................

something.

Yes I... I thread drop. Especially in the past couple of months. :(

Is Lloyd going to make fun of Yuri for doing whatever the hell he is doing with Flynn.

He will probably make fun of him a little, but in a bro way. I think Yuri will probably find the fact that Lloyd ships it a lot more terrible (he totally does.)

Do you still want to hit on me, Yuri Lowell, or is Flynn enough earnestness for any one man

If his desire-to-hit-on-Lloyd levels are diminished it is only because they haven't talked in a while. If anything hitting on Lloyd will be a RELIEF from Flynn. Sure, Lloyd can make him a little tsun, but he's got nothing on Flynn levels of tsun.

Any app plans?

No app plans, but app dreams, yeah - I would really like to play Mogget from Garth Nix's Old Kingdom books at some point, but I know I couldn't handle three. Some days you just have to play a weird inhuman sarcastic cat who probably eats people though.

What are Yuri's current thoughts on plot?

Yuri is basically eternally ambivalent about plot all of the time! He doesn't get too excited over it or involved with it. It's like he said to Mal: if something happens, we'll deal with it just like we have been dealing with everything that has already happened. He is kind of broken on trying to understand the world, and he said as much to Mithos. Frankly, it's just not his forte. As much as he'd LIKE to be an active protagonist, he's a passive one, which means reactions not proactions.

What does Lloyd generally think people think of him?

Thoughts... on... Raven...

"Where are Yuri ad Vincent at, as per last thread~?"

Also, state of Yuri's room since he went on a mirror binge . . .

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